Note: This is a continuation of a series on Dr.* James White’s 1997 debate with Gerry Matatics on sola scriptura. You can find part 1 here and follow the links forward. (The debate itself is on YouTube, and I direct you there since I would no more embed the labor of another man’s vast brain than I would take a bone from a harmless German Shepherd doggy.)
ou nullify the word of God by your tradition!” Christ tells the Pharisees in Mark 7:13. Mark 7:13 is a common Protestant proof text for sola scriptura and, specifically, against the authority of tradition—so much so that Dr.* White ends his opening statement with it. See? he cries. Jesus condemned tradition! We’ll get there. But first let’s join Dr.* White around 35:45.
THE NOBLE BEREANS AND PERSEVERING EPHESIANS
Here he turns to an oft-stated and, truth be told, bizarre claim: The decision to convert to Catholicism is a fallible decision. No doubt it is, but who denies it? It’s hard to tell what Dr.* White thinks he proves by pointing this out. The decision to convert to Calvinism, or anything for that matter, is also fallible. But he’s going somewhere with this:
[S]uch a decision of embracing an authority outside of Scripture is not to be found within Scripture itself. [Not at all true.] Matthew 18 is often misused to make the Church the final source of truth. But instead, I point out to you, we find the apostle John commending the church of Ephesus in the Book of Revelation for testing those who claim to be apostles—just as the Bereans had done in Acts chapter 17. When the apostles come preaching God’s truth, they search the Scriptures daily to see whether those things are actually so.
Dr.* White finally gets around to telling us where he thinks he finds sola scriptura in the Bible. It took him long enough; I had begun to think the Church Fathers were his sole rule of faith and practice — sola patres ecclesia. But now he cites two texts — Rev. 2:2 and Acts 17:11 — and denies that Scripture mentions any extra-biblical authority. Except that’s not true.
- In 2 Thess. 2:15, St. Paul writes: “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.”
“By letter” is almost certainly a reference to the Pauline epistles — specifically, 1 and 2 Thessalonians. But Paul says that apostolic traditions passed on orally — “by word of mouth” — also have authority.
- Acts 7:52–53 “Which of the prophets did not your fathers persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered, you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it.”
- Gal. 3:19: “Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made; and it was ordained by angels through an intermediary.”
- Heb. 2:2–3a: “For if the message declared by angels was valid and every transgression or disobedience received a just retribution, how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation?
All three of these verses allude to the Jewish tradition that the Torah was “spoken by angels.” That tradition is nowhere to be found in the Old Testament, which means that the apostles understood Jewish tradition to be an authoritative source of divine teaching.
But let’s look at the two texts Dr.* White cites as support for sola scriptura. In Rev. 2:2, St. John does indeed praise the Ephesians for testing those who claim to be apostles, but he does not tell us what authority the Ephesians used. Dr.* White simply assumes the authority must have been the Scriptures, but John does not say that. Dr.* White reads it into the text.
Acts 17:11 tells us that the Bereans “searched the scriptures daily, whether those things [that Paul preached] were so.” Specifically, Paul had been preaching that Christ fulfilled Old Testament prophecy (Acts 17:2–3). What other text should the Bereans have searched? If Paul had said, “Christ is the fulfillment of Plato’s Republic, a wise Berean would have searched the Republic. Could we derive a principle of sola Republica from that? What we discover here is that the Old Testament was sufficient to prove the claim that Paul was making, not that the Bible alone is sufficient for every question of faith and practice. Acts 17:11 describes a particular occasion of biblical exegesis and Dr.* White reads into it a universal principle of biblical sufficiency.
As for Matthew 18, if Dr.* White thinks that Catholics have misused this text in an effort to defend the authority of the papacy, he’ll need to tell us how they have done so.
PILLAR AND FOUNDATION
Dr.* White next tries to cast doubt upon a Catholic proof-text for the authority of the Church: 1 Tim. 3:15.
Now, someone may well say, “But Mr. White! [He did not yet have his unaccredited Th.D. in 1997.] The Church is the pillar and the foundation of the truth.” And I can only say, Amen, it most certainly is! I love the church of Jesus Christ! But what does a pillar and foundation do? A pillar and a foundation holds something else up, and what does the Church do? The Church holds up the truth of God for all men to see and proclaims that truth to all men. But she never confuses herself with the truth itself. The Church is the Body of Christ, and she hears Christ speaking to her through his word; she never substitutes herself for the voice of her Master.
Dr.* White might have a point here, if only 1 Timothy 3:15 said that the Church was the pillar and foundation of the word and he could explain how he knows God’s word is limited to the Bible. But Dr.* White manages to conflate “the word” with “the truth” — as though the truth resides only in the word (by which he means the Bible) and nowhere else: a claim Paul himself does not make. The verse says that the Church holds up the truth; Dr.* White imports into the text a prior idea of his that the truth is limited to the Scriptures.
Nor does the Church “substitute herself” for Christ, or truth. The Church safeguards the deposit of faith; she is not herself the source of it:
The task of authentically interpreting the word of God, whether written or handed on, has been entrusted exclusively to the living teaching office of the Church, whose authority is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ. This teaching office is not above the word of God, but serves it, teaching only what has been handed on. (Dei Verbum 10)
Dr.* White does not need to tell us that the Church “never substitutes herself for the voice of her Master.” We already know that. If he thinks any substituting has taken place, he’ll need to tell us where this has happened.
THEOPNEUSTOS
“Only the Scriptures,” Dr.* White continues, “are theopneustos. The Church is never described as being ‘God-breathed.’ But God’s Word is.”
He’s referring here to 2 Timothy 3:16: “All scripture is given by inspiration of God [Gr., theopneustos], and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” Now, the text never says that only Scripture is “God breathed.” It says “all” Scripture is, but that’s different. Protestants love to import into the Bible words like “only” or “alone” where they don’t exist. It’s a tic of theirs; Martin Luther was the first to do that, with Rom. 3:28, and Protestants have not stopped since.
“But Alt! The Bible never says that anything else is God-breathed!”
Really? Are you sure about that? Let’s look at John 20:21–23:
Then said Jesus to them again [Jesus is God, right?], Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed [enephysèsen] on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost [pneuma]. Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.”
Sure sounds to me like the apostles are God-breathed too. The word theopneustos is a combination of two words: theos, which means “God,” and pneustos, which means “breath.” The word for Spirit (pneuma) comes from the same root word, pneo, which means “to blow.” For this reason, the Bible frequently refers to the Holy Spirit as wind (cf. John 3:8, Acts 2:2). Thus when Christ breathes on the apostles in John 20, they become infused with the Spirit (or breath) of God just as surely as the Scriptures are. And the breath of God — the Spirit — is passed on through apostolic succession, as the Church Fathers understood. Here, to cite just one example, is St. Irenaeus in Against Heresies:
Wherefore it is incumbent to obey the presbyters who are in the Church — those who, as I have shown, possess the succession from the apostles; those who, together with the succession of the episcopate, have received the certain gift of truth, according to the good pleasure of the Father. But [it is also incumbent] to hold in suspicion others who depart from the primitive succession, and assemble themselves together in any place whatsoever, [looking upon them] either as heretics of perverse minds, or as schismatics puffed up and self-pleasing. (IV.26)
If the Bible has authority because it is God-breathed, then so do the successors of the apostles, who “have received the certain gift of truth.” Christ said that the Holy Spirit — the very breath of God — “will guide you into all truth” (John 16:13).
GOD-BREATHED TRADITION
Dr.* White next brings up Mr. Matatics’ view that tradition is “inspired.” It sounds sensible to me; in spiritos literally means “breath of the spirit.” Since Catholic tradition is apostolic tradition, and the apostles receive the breath of the spirit from Christ himself, then tradition is necessarily inspired.
“In taking that particular viewpoint,” Dr.* White says, Mr. Matatics
stands in the same tradition that you find, for example, in the Council of Trent. The Council of Trent — the original draft of the document on tradition and scripture — said that God’s revelation and God’s truth come to us in two forms. It comes partly … in the written Scriptures and partly in the oral traditions. Hence if you only have the written Scriptures, you don’t have everything that God intends us to have. You have to have the oral traditions along with. Now, there are many Roman Catholic apologists today who don’t hold that viewpoint.”
No, I side with Mr. Matatics and the Council of Trent on this one. Here is Trent’s Decree on the Canonical Scriptures:
The sacred and holy, ecumenical, and general Synod of Trent … keep[s] this always in view, that … the purity itself of the Gospel [is] preserved in the Church; which … our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, first promulgated with His own mouth, and then commanded to be preached by His Apostles to every creature, as the fountain of all, both saving truth, and moral discipline; and see[s] clearly that this truth and discipline are contained in the written books, and the unwritten traditions which [were] received by the Apostles from the mouth of Christ himself, or from the Apostles themselves.
Vatican II, in Dei Verbum, teaches the same:
Sacred tradition, Sacred Scripture and the teaching authority of the Church, in accord with God’s most wise design, are so linked and joined together that one cannot stand without the others.
Finally, the Catechism of the Catholic Church §95 cites Dei Verbum to state the same truth. I can’t see any way to get around it: It’s not so much that Gerry Matatics believes that tradition is inspired — the Church itself teaches this.
Next Dr.* White tries to question the Catholic understanding of 2 Thess. 2:15: “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter.”
“This is a great misuse of the passage!” Dr.* White insists:
First of all, there is only one body of truth in view here. It is one set of traditions delivered two ways: by preaching when Paul was among the Thessalonians, and by letter — that is, 1 Thessalonians. The entire church at Thessalonika had already been taught these items. These are not, then, teachings that are limited to the bishops but are generally-known truths that every person in the church knew and believed.
Wait. I’m confused here. Since when do Catholics say that oral tradition is “limited to the bishops”? Of course it’s “generally-known.” I’m not aware of any Catholic who defines oral tradition as a body of beliefs the bishops hold secretly. That’s Gnosticism. Paul, after all, says that these traditions were taught. Dr.* White needs to explain this. I’d have asked him for clarification.
He continues:
Any claim that the oral component contains anything other than what is found in the written component requires the defender of such a position to prove from the writings of the early Church that these things were known and believed by the people.
Dr.* White wants us to believe that the “oral component” was oral only while the New Testament was being written; eventually the apostles committed to the text of Scripture. He doesn’t tell us on what authority he knows this. I’d have pressed him on that one too.
But he’s getting at something else here too. He thinks that Marian dogmas like the Assumption were unknown in the early Church, and he challenges Mr. Matatics to trace the Assumption back to the early Church and show evidence that people knew of it then.
We’ll see whether Mr. Matatics takes him up on that challenge. It’s not altogether difficult; Tim Staples does so.
IT IS CORBAN!
At the very close of his opening statement, Dr.* White turns to another biblical text where he claims to find sola scriptura: Mark 7:9–13.
In this passage, Jesus confronts the Pharisees on a particular tradition of theirs:
Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
But Jesus does not condemn the Pharisees for adding to the word of God. Instead, he accuses them of transgressing the word of God — specifically, the fourth commandment. The Corban rule was a method by which people could forgo the duty to take care of parents in their old age. They would give that portion of their inheritance to the Temple. Because the money was then God’s, it no longer could be used to take care of one’s parents. This was a shiftless attempt to avoid the fourth commandment; and that is what provoked Christ’s wrath. The text says nothing at all about traditions outside of Scripture, but only with traditions that violate a specific command of Scripture.
The Catholic teaching about tradition does not say that tradition may be used to violate commandments. If Dr.* White knows of a tradition of ours that does that, then he should point out what it is. And Mr. Matatics really needs to challenge him on Mark 7:13.
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